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FAHayek89: deadpool03mm so what is your alternative socalism marxism please, tell us exactly what economic system you would like clearly. it is good to know where virg's supporters stand.
FAHayek89: deadpool03mm nation states haven't gone anywhere and aren't any time soon. loyalty, yes, if it is to something or someone that earns loyalty. egalitarianism equality before law, yes. economic equality of outcome absolutely not. freedom yes, which requires rejecting economic and outcome equality. property rights are part of freedom. human dignity i think the big 3 members got a pretty dignified deal in the end. feel free to tell me how they didn't.	FAHayek89: deadpool03mm so, basically, you are saying that you don't wish to make the effort to succeed and the world should respect that fact, maintain stagnant, and provide for you if you are so convinced that you could are capable of rising to a higher station if you chose to but refuse on some strange moral principle, why not rise, then give the added money to those you say you care so much about and do you think in a world with nothing but line workers there would be lines to work on
deadpool03mm: fahayek89 if i don't, i'm willing to bet someone does. if you aren't a line worker, your fleecing someone's pocket. that's the nature of capitalism. in your case it's probably some 12 year old slave in a vietnamese death trap of a factory across the ocean.	deadpool03mm: deadpool03mm oh wait, i forgot.. this is the "new economy", the post industrial economy, ideals like nation states, loyalty, egalitarianism, liberty, freedom, human dignity, etc. mean nothing to people like you.. only self interest and the profit motive matter now.. i forgot..
deadpool03mm: fahayek89 the economy isn't "changing", the economy was "changed" with the intention of cementing the permanent rule of the parasite class and shutting the door on broad swaths of a once well off population. i'm not interested in participating in any game in which my enemy has the luxury of changing the rules at will. what people like you have done to the once great american labor force is both inhumanly evil, and equivalent to high treason to god and country.	FAHayek89: deadpool03mm yes. from this and your keynes post i can see why you are so upset. given your superior intellect and ability to make a coherent argument, you should be the one running the big three. actually, you should probably be governor. it is a true injustice that someone like you would be overlooked.
FAHayek89: theft was the government fleecing chrysler s secure bondholders. the law clearly stipulates secure bondholders are paid first in bankruptcy before executives, workers, retirees, or other creditors. in reality, pension funds are major purchasers of secure bonds. when you cheat secure bondholders, you cheat pensioners in other places. this administration, in a dirty deal with the uaw, ignored law. for the berneros and obamas of the world, we live under executive fiat, not rule of law.	FAHayek89: deadpool03mm i ve inherited nothing. unlike gm and chrysler, i have no stolen wealth. so no, you don't have any right to a dime of my money. i ve got no problem with taxes to support public goods and a minimal safety net. i ll fight to keep you from stealing my tax dollars to redistribute wealth to support incompetent industries. you better believe that i ll fight redistributive thuggery by funding candidates who oppose the uaw bernero big 3 tactics of government sanctioned theft.
FAHayek89: deadpool03mm so if you are making such good money now, why don t you go get one of those fancy graduate degrees you think equate to wealth	FAHayek89: deadpool03mm perhaps if you invested less energy in jealousy and in attempting to steal wealth that isn't yours through redistributive tax dollars and adapting and bettering yourself to find a better job in a changing economy, you'd be in better shape. even if i did make money off of stocks, which i didn't, it would be my money and my method of earning would be irrelevant to my fundamental property right to that money.
deadpool03mm: fahayek89 unless you make your money swinging a hammer 12 hrs a day, i doubt you've ever actually "earned" a dime in your life. why should i feel bad about confiscating the gambling money you picked up sitting around @!#ing starbucks all day trading stocks	deadpool03mm: skatelongboards "i'm rick snyder and my dick is three feet long "
deadpool03mm: fahayek89 i don't know that america will survive with crystler. the basic economic model that people like you have brought about is designed to fail catastrophically. people like you started a war on the working people and the poor of this country decades ago. your pissed because your facing the loss of your stolen wealth to the untouchable caste who actually work for a living. just remember: you called down the thunder..	deadpool03mm: fahayek89 hard work give me a trust fund, i'll ace any mba program in the country. i'm also a college grad and a fairly high earning professional who quite literally shed blood to keep the heat on through my years in university, so i really don't want to hear any bullshit about the "hard working" rich kid party boys who so invest the business programs of any given american university these days. upward mobility ground to a halt a long time ago in this country, now we have a caste system.
FAHayek89: deadpool03mm yes, those dirty upper echelon mba folks. we should hate them for having the mental ability and doing the hard work to make it so far. why don't they just understand their place you haven't been able to do it, so what right do they have	skatelongboards: fahayek89 vote rick snyder read his ten point plan on reinventing michigan thats what we need a businessman to lead the state.
FAHayek89: fahayek89 i am a michigan resident. michigan will hurt as long as it facilitates a single industry economy and rewards industrial mismanagement.	FAHayek89: princeeverything one similarity matters for the auto and financial sectors: a failed business models. management and the uaw were part of the failure. ford and tokyo big 3 u.s. operations demonstrated success was possible. no business has a right to compensation for failure. no executive or worker has a right to government wages. businesses that fail cease to exist. america survived without studebaker. we can survive without chrysler.
FAHayek89: fahayek89 that isn t wealthy, but it is more than enough for a comfortable middle class life style. both numbers put you at or above the average tax payer s annual income, yet you think her or she should sacrifice their income for you to maintain yours either is more than enough to justify cuts before asking for the hard earned money of your fellow citizens in the form of tax supported corporate and union welfare.	FAHayek89: princeeverything to use your strict standard, 25 x 8 hr. day x 5 days a week x 52 weeks a year 52,000 a year. of course, there is no reason we shouldn t count benefits as part of compensation when considering quality of life, which puts the number back at 145,600 a year.
FAHayek89: princeeverything j.m. keynes on hayek's road to serfdom: "in my opinion it is a grand book...morally and philosophically i find myself in agreement with virtually the whole of it: and not only in agreement with it, but in deeply moved agreement." the two had quite a civil, respectful, and professional dialogue and tremendous admiration for each other. somehow, real economists, and intelligent people in general, never have to resort to name calling. "you dumb ass" isn't in their vocabulary.	princeeverything: fahayek89 hey how is being wrong about everything treating you. i see your not much different than your austrian original. 70 an hour after benefits is about 25, you know how much a union worker made on adjusted inflation 30 years ago do you know how much a wall street banker that creates mortgage bonds and then bets against them with default swaps made 30 years ago i thought so, stop comparing middle class workers to the thieves on wall street. how's about a real solution
princeeverything: hey hayek, how is being wrong about everything treating you how dare you compare the workforce of the uaw to the pigs on wall street. the pigs on wall street have given up nothing. you think michigan is just doing dandy come up here you dumb ass. hayek was an idiot and so are you read something by keynes a real econmist.	ElzieBibbs: search subscribe elzie bibbs

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